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Update: Kotaku notes this morning that successful times have shown up for the raid on both PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. If two of the three platforms have very little hope of beating it, even if theyвЂ™re willing to make the effort of organizing an eight-player team and spending hours upon hours at it, the raid may as well not exist at all. Raids were a huge part of that messaging. Back in March, Massive and UbisoftвЂ™s publicists really wanted to stress endgame content as separating The Division 2 and elevating it above what its predecessor was at launch. IвЂ™ve reached out to an Ubisoft representative to ask if Massive, or anyone in community management, has any statement or plans to make one soon being the weekend, I wouldnвЂ™t bet on an immediate reply.Д«ut with just about every gaming publication that follows a game like The Division 2 mentioning this, someone should respond once everyoneвЂ™s back in the office. ItвЂ™s now been two days since Operation Dark Hours went live, and console playersвЂ™ continued futility sort of speaks for itself.

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But Kotaku notes that in Destiny 2, the most similar game with a PC and console presence, PC players were the first to beat its raids, but console players trailed only by hours. Raids are not for everyone and yes, as the tongue-in-cheek poster above somewhat implies, those who get the most out of them are angling for an extra hard experience, and shouldnвЂ™t have that thwarted by outreach to less committed players. вЂњThe shield isnвЂ™t good for tanking either as pistols arenвЂ™t good enough for damage,вЂќ they say, taking a swipe at Massive for вЂњonly ever car for the PC build as thatвЂ™s the version they personally play.вЂќ вЂњThe pulse isnвЂ™t viable either as thereвЂ™s just not enough skills to buff your team,вЂќ they continued, and I can attest to that on a single-player PvE basis alone pulse is beyond useless simply for its piss-ant range compared to the first The Division.

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вЂњNot only is the gear designed for DPS but none of the skills or skill mods really allow group dynamics,вЂќ they wrote, which belies Massive EntertainmentвЂ™s claim that the raid вЂњrequires a coordinated team with roles.вЂќ Still another player says that the larger problem is the raid is really only beatable with eight players all working damage-per-second builds.

вЂњAll I do know is that if it has taken so much longer for the raid to be done on the console, itвЂ™s indicative of something being wrong in the raidвЂ™s design that wasnвЂ™t properly researched and addressed.вЂќ вЂњRather than introducing nerfs to the encounters at this time while things are still fresh, instead there should be changes made to the console versions to compensate for the differences over the PC version,вЂќ they said.

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How to prepare for The Division 2вЂ™s first raid, Operation Dark Hours From Paul Tassi, of Forbes, earlier this morning:

Suffice to say, at publication time the raidвЂ™s leaderboard on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One had zero (0) entries. вЂњI have seen many top Twitch streamers (with great builds) try to complete the raid on console and no matter what they try cannot finish the final boss.вЂќ вЂњI am not whining here,вЂќ says the original poster. The DivisionвЂ™s subreddit is alive with complaints about the raidвЂ™s difficulty (and condescending counter-complaints about the complaining) with a thread demanding the developers themselves try to beat the raid on the console doing most of the talking. But this is well more than some issue of gameplay criticism or someoneвЂ™s impressions. Kotaku went into extensive detail about the raid and whatвЂ™s behind the difficulty spike yesterday.

But more than just a handful of frustrated voices are saying that the raidвЂ™s expectations are beyond the capabilities of twin-analog gamepad gaming. PC users managed to do so within hours of the raid, Operation Dark Hours, going live on Thursday. Raids are meant to be hard, but the first one in Tom ClancyвЂ™s The Division 2 is so hard that so far, no players on console have managed to beat it.

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